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I like this shot a lot, very clear. I don't see any banding on those picture, banding that you see could cause by the monitor too. Well if you see banding than make it look like one of JJ Abrams movie :lol:


Is yours "UseComplexIndirectLighting=true" ?
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Adjust the FOV
or
increase Grain inside enbeffect.fx

Insomnia wrote: So...... A Gio shot! :mrgreen: Trying out my new preset I've been working on.

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BTW you see all that banding? HELP PLEASE! :C
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ENBseries renders in 16 bpc I think, and banding shouldn't be happening at that bit depth unless you are making certain mistakes. Avoid lowering the brightness or saturation in some way and then boosting it again, or the reverse, or having two color shifts fight eachother when they will result in an intermediate hue anyway, and avoid use of the palette texture, especially for things that can be done simply in the GUI color correction code (which I think should cover most use cases of a palette texture). I think high enbseries,ini curve values can also cause it if you raise brightness to compensate, especially cloud curve. SweetFX has a dithering effect that can reduce banding if the other things aren't an option, but YMMV. Some desired looks may inevitably cause banding unless you start playing around in the creation kit.
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How the hell do I lighten up shadows?

I've tried lowering AmbientLightingCurve and various AmbientMinLevel settings and shadows in some scenes--not all--are STILL pitch black ...

What am I missing?

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haints wrote:How the hell do I lighten up shadows?

I've tried lowering AmbientLightingCurve and various AmbientMinLevel settings and shadows in some scenes--not all--are STILL pitch black ...

What am I missing?

lower direct lightning or increase ambientlighting, maybe you got a heavy lightning mod

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Increase AmbientMinLevel under [SKYLIGHTING] in enbseries.ini.

charlie
Thanks!

pastrana
Wonderful pics! Nice to see your shots again here.

kermles
I did all you said. No difference. Some tweaks case the banding to be less visible due to extremely dark colors and low brightness in general. I disabled everything, all effects. Still banding.
But I think something else is wrong.... I have banding in Skyrim main menu (all the smoke and stuff). Hmm...... Could be Skyrim inis??
Or it's this budged monitor. >.<
Thanks a lot for your help and advice sir! I really appreciate it. :)
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Insomina: There are ways to fight the banding.. but well it kinda requires that you know the limits of your general look... some looks will always have banding since they are just too extreme to fit inside the limited amount or bits per color channel.
Anyways here is a link to where I already explained once how you can fight it
http://forum.step-project.com/topic/512 ... fixing-it/

If you check out my skylight ENB you will see I have almost no banding during dawn and dusk on just about any weather... the only times when it is visible is during certain foggy weathers and rainy ones... since the main method that helps... do not help as effectively in greyscale.

But what kermles says is mostly spot on. if you use a palette texture then it is almost impossible to get rid of it since you call the adaptation shader after most other effects.. and it is just about impossible to compensate the dynamic nature of it when you already did color corrections.

Haints: Use skylighting for exteriors or alter the tonemapping of your preset... If you have high base contrasts then getting shadows to go out of "pitch black" is going to require rather large .ini values to compensate.. which will most likely ruin something else.

Anyways I could talk all day about this if you want to know more just throw me a pm! No need to clutter up this wall of exellence!


That said then lovely to see images from you again pastrana... missed your style!

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Re: TES Skyrim

Pfuscher, Insomnia and Aiyen--thanks for responding!
Insomnia wrote:haints
Increase AmbientMinLevel under [SKYLIGHTING] in enbseries.ini.
Ahh ... INCREASE, not DECREASE. That is what I was doing wrong ... I thought it was like AmbientLightingCurve where you would lower to lighten ... Still kind of tricky because of the different values for different times of day, but at least I'm not totally working against myself now.

That makes things a little easier, but Pfuscher and Aiyen I will look into your suggestions as well.

Thanks again guys!

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haints wrote:How the hell do I lighten up shadows?

I've tried lowering AmbientLightingCurve and various AmbientMinLevel settings and shadows in some scenes--not all--are STILL pitch black ...

What am I missing?

You change the shadow brighter or darker by adjusting yours "iShadowMapResolutionPrimary" resolution, it won't affect fps much. Also "iShadowMapResolutionSecondary" will kick black levels up or down but hard on cpu. Lower resolutions = lighter shadows, So do the primary first and adjust accordingly. Both are inside yours SkyrimPrefs.ini.
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