I know Maevens work but you have no idea how complicated this all is, most things are fake they will fall apart under certain conditions and my goal is to avoid this as best as possible but its tough
Also because in certain directions modder work with bethesda standards and i have big problem get such things to work efficiently without them falling apart in the next second

1 Big issue is Shadow Texture results when no light hits the texture it can become problematic if you work in bethesdas context.

i get very good results with Real Girls but they fall apart very fast as well till now the best results i got was with my own approach outside of bethesdas context, though it brakes the whole game experience and a lot would need to be adapted which is no problem for my own work but for everyones modder work.



it was some work to adapt this but as i said it's unstable, this is a non detail result no addition shadowing no SSAO no IBL really plain

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I still don't understand what "fake" are you talking about and what you're trying to achieve with your girl? What will fall apart under certain conditions? What certain conditions exactly? Are you tweaking enb preset in different way as we tweak? Or you're changing weather and imagespace modifiers in CK to avoid unrealistic skin? Because i'm looking at your girl and just can't see nothing special or realistic. Maybe i'm wrong, but i'm married man, i c beautiful woman everyday and i know how realistic female skin looks like.
There's one modder, Kristin, or kindalike, she was trying to achieve something cool with textures, but also fails, don't repeat her mistakes.

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I used to be an ENB tweaker like you, but then I overheat my GPU.

best thing about this picture is the hair and the eyelashes. I would like to plea the fifth on other parts.

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i don't try to be real you misunderstand i try a so called "hyperreal approach" real would definitely not work, though i don't want to go in an entire ANIME like approach, that's not my goal.

You also need to be calibrated to see the correct color response, that is very important

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You're arguing based on taste. There are no mistakes, only differences in taste and desires. CruNcher has his approach and he's doing just fine in his work. I fail to see what's wrong with that logic. If it does not appeal to your sense of realism, fine. Arguing about it as if it's fact that your understanding of realism is the correct one in a video game is completely wrong. And I'm directing this statement at everyone.

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agreed "BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER"

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Thx ZeroKing that hits the nail im very grateful to see so many approaches and ideas floating in from around the world of different artists with different ideas it's just grate and i learn a lot, this is very different this is about Realtime Character Creation and people don't really understand the art behind it i have the feeling, it's an entire different Workflow and the more assets you have the better it becomes the more versatile even it's just amazing sure i could create over beautified girls also but others do that already and they do an amazing job with it so why should i follow them ?

And i try to make this a head part in my ENB work as well so it becomes symbiotic in some way
Skin and it's Light Reaction is a ultra important thing to me but hard as hell in this context.





What still looks decent here on the back looks absolutely disaster on the front but i cant show this

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Do you think Maevans works are Anime-like approach? Looks like almost photorealistic for me (unfortunately he removed 98% of his shots from nexus so i can't show more of his shots)
And yeah, i don't want to make you think that i think you're doing something bad. I'm just asking and trying to understand your approach and what you want to see in the end of your hard work. Simple.


I'm not arguing at all. I'm just interested what exactly he's doing. he has his approach, i understand, and i didn't say "you're doing it wrong" or something.

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@ Xilandro
My statement was not directed towards you (I didn't even read your posts yet), but just in general.... since there were people in the past who berated CruNcher for his work, over nothing really; CruNcher doesn't deserve that, he's doing quite a neat and interesting job at it actually.

I think we said our piece, eh? Back to screenshots, boobies, dragons and all that.

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