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And the same thing could most likely be said about ATI drivers as well at one point. But the main thing is: Problem solved, blame Bethesda.charlievoviii wrote:Yeah but it was easy fix nvidia , just roll back the driver. So no biggy--JawZ-- wrote:charlievoviii;
Have you forgotten about the sun ray problem with Nvidia drivers?
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than roll back But yes fking bughthesdaDaemonWhite wrote:And the same thing could most likely be said about ATI drivers as well at one point. But the main thing is: Problem solved, blame Bethesda.charlievoviii wrote:Yeah but it was easy fix nvidia , just roll back the driver. So no biggy--JawZ-- wrote:charlievoviii;
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Both of companies have problem with their drivers from one point in time to another that's just how it is. Some prefer Nvidia and some prefer AMD. I prefer Nvidia but I don't look at drivers during comparison of the two as it's in my eyes an invalid comparison, I just do simply put.
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fair enough, but if you do a history check, nothing beats AMD drivers problems. History--JawZ-- wrote:Both of companies have problem with their drivers from one point in time to another that's just how it is. Some prefer Nvidia and some prefer AMD. I prefer Nvidia but I don't look at drivers during comparison of the two as it's in my eyes an invalid comparison, I just do simply put.
I used to be an AMD adventurer like you but then I met Nvidia
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Amount of drivers that has had bugs and problems is not a reason alone, what kind of impact a faulty driver is the one thing that ways more heavy on me. Do you remember the 196.75 drivers for Nvidia?
Same here and I think it's best to stop now as we can probably go on like this forever, or close to it
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ATI had driver issues in the past, and Nvidia had problems of it's own as well.
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This now actual for AMD.
Haven't tried clouds, but i'm sure that they add many issues like any other transparent objects which don't have depth or overwrite depth. All methods to fix such objects are very slow and incompatible with users made depth of field. Replacing them with own rendering solve most effects, but not depth of field external shader or any other external shader which use depth data. Computing depth of field twice, with and without clouds is slow. Degrade clouds depth to jittering on screen is very noisy and removing of that noise required, but when, if even effect.txt may need depth? Also such noise kill cell shading and some other algorithms. What i want to say is that greater features for editing bring issues which i'm facing now.
This now actual for AMD.
Haven't tried clouds, but i'm sure that they add many issues like any other transparent objects which don't have depth or overwrite depth. All methods to fix such objects are very slow and incompatible with users made depth of field. Replacing them with own rendering solve most effects, but not depth of field external shader or any other external shader which use depth data. Computing depth of field twice, with and without clouds is slow. Degrade clouds depth to jittering on screen is very noisy and removing of that noise required, but when, if even effect.txt may need depth? Also such noise kill cell shading and some other algorithms. What i want to say is that greater features for editing bring issues which i'm facing now.
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Im Nvidia user myself since changed from the old 9800 pro good old times but since ATI was bought by AMD
AMD improved everything and now the Driver is much better then ever and the Hardware Performance can beat Nvidia in certain Regions GCN 2.0 is very efficient especially in Compute where all Nvidia consumer solutions are cut off and since day one AMD implemented the complete 11.1 featureset also some stuff unimportant for Game developers though some useful and now AMD is owning the Console Space for years to come which means a lot of Compute Stuff primarily optimized for AMD architecture, so AMD user will never be left out anymore also not for the PC in the coming years every ENGINE will have a fully optimized AMD path i guarantee you that.
And AMD will be again in front with their next Release Cycle this year where Nvidia will again follow later behind with Maxwell so for me as long time Nvidia user it's hard to take the decision to stay with Nvidia knowing that AMD has the whole Industry behind them for years now with their console monopol and Compute Performance is a important point.
The Ecosystem of AMD improved significantly since their APU as well they care much more about Devs and developed great tools (introduced the same Conference Structure like Nvidia) in that process something what Nvidia started early on AMD reached it now also, so the decision from any point isn't easy anymore as it was years ago
AMD improved everything and now the Driver is much better then ever and the Hardware Performance can beat Nvidia in certain Regions GCN 2.0 is very efficient especially in Compute where all Nvidia consumer solutions are cut off and since day one AMD implemented the complete 11.1 featureset also some stuff unimportant for Game developers though some useful and now AMD is owning the Console Space for years to come which means a lot of Compute Stuff primarily optimized for AMD architecture, so AMD user will never be left out anymore also not for the PC in the coming years every ENGINE will have a fully optimized AMD path i guarantee you that.
And AMD will be again in front with their next Release Cycle this year where Nvidia will again follow later behind with Maxwell so for me as long time Nvidia user it's hard to take the decision to stay with Nvidia knowing that AMD has the whole Industry behind them for years now with their console monopol and Compute Performance is a important point.
The Ecosystem of AMD improved significantly since their APU as well they care much more about Devs and developed great tools (introduced the same Conference Structure like Nvidia) in that process something what Nvidia started early on AMD reached it now also, so the decision from any point isn't easy anymore as it was years ago
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Hahaha, that made me laugh, nice one.DaemonWhite wrote:
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