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TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 27 Dec 2011, 23:21
by ENBSeries
ATI users having problems with performance, so i writing what know (but i'm NVidia user).


Problem: Overall lower performance even if all effects disabled.
Solution: Known problem, will be fixed later (NVidia users do not have it).

Problem: Antialiasing with SSAO enabled in ENBSeries dramatically decrease performance.
Solution: Turn off antialiasing, at least do not force it in drivers (any tools similar to Catalyst Control Center).

Problem: Forced in drivers anisotropic filtering with SSAO enabled in ENBSeries dramatically decrease performance.
Solution: Turn off forced filtering and use internal from game or ENBSeries.

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 28 Dec 2011, 04:32
by pantherx12
"Problem: Overall lower performance even if all effects disabled.
Solution: Known problem, will be fixed later (NVidia users do not have it).
"

Good to hear :D

Really want to enable SSAO in game.

Thanks for a great mod man, really adds so much to the game.

If you need a beta tester for AMD cards I'll be more than happy to test files, I've lots of free time.

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 28 Dec 2011, 04:38
by pantherx12
Would of edited my post but I didn't sign up before so can't.

I've literally all the time in the world right now to test things as I'm unemployed.
Using a HD 6870 so it's in the main stream performance section so will make a pretty decent card for testing ;)

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 15:53
by includao
ENBSeries wrote:ATI users having problems with performance, so i writing what know (but i'm NVidia user).


Problem: Overall lower performance even if all effects disabled.
Solution: Known problem, will be fixed later (NVidia users do not have it).

This. I have this problem. I tried to fix it for days, using all kinds of different combinations and setups.

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 30 Dec 2011, 22:05
by ENBSeries
Finally i did it, optimization for ATI users. Will post update in nearest hours.

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 31 Dec 2011, 09:18
by ENBSeries
ENGLISH:
Does anyone can say that 0.102 much faster than 0.101 for ATI cards? Or may be i didn't understand what is the problem of ATI drivers...

РУССКИЙ:
Кто-нибудь может сказать, что версия 0.102 гораздо быстрее чем 0.101 для ATI видях? Или может я не понял причину проблем атишных драйверов...

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 31 Dec 2011, 09:55
by includao
ENBSeries wrote:ENGLISH:
Does anyone can say that 0.102 much faster than 0.101 for ATI cards? Or may be i didn't understand what is the problem of ATI drivers...

РУССКИЙ:
Кто-нибудь может сказать, что версия 0.102 гораздо быстрее чем 0.101 для ATI видях? Или может я не понял причину проблем атишных драйверов...
Now disabling all effects (specially SSAO) finally gives us good performance. With 0.101, the fps didn't change if I disabled, for example, SSAO.


But any AA mode is broken with SSAO right now... Seriously. My CF setup (5870) can do 45-60fps with SSAO high quality enabled and 60fps without ENB. But when I try to use ENB 0.102 with SSAO enabled (it doesn't matter the quality) and any AA mode (MSAA or SS), my fps goes down to 10-25fps. I mean, should SSAO, even at it's most crude quality settings, give such a hit when AA is enabled? :(


PS: AA is not enforced through the drivers panel...

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 31 Dec 2011, 10:03
by includao
btw, thanks for the fixes and happy new year Boris! :)

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 31 Dec 2011, 10:11
by pantherx12
ENBSeries wrote:ENGLISH:
Does anyone can say that 0.102 much faster than 0.101 for ATI cards? Or may be i didn't understand what is the problem of ATI drivers...

РУССКИЙ:
Кто-нибудь может сказать, что версия 0.102 гораздо быстрее чем 0.101 для ATI видях? Или может я не понял причину проблем атишных драйверов...
Great thanks man!

Will post results soon.

"I mean, should SSAO, even at it's most crude quality settings, give such a hit when AA is enabled"

SSAO uses up a lot of V-ram so if your playing at high resolution and then use AA then it can be quite a hit!

On my set up SSAO is only a 20-30% hit depending on how much there is to apply the effect to.

Re: TES Skyrim v0.101 ATI users

Posted: 31 Dec 2011, 10:39
by includao
When MSAA is enabled (4x, for example), without ENB, I keep 60fps everywhere. Without MSAA, with ENB, I can get 45-60fps, very stable. So SSAO costs me ~10fps. And MSAA doesn't cost me ANY fps: the game never goes beyond 55-60fps. The problem is when SSAO and MSAA are working together. MSAA alone is not a big thing.