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Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 00:54
by oglala
Hello, SSAO looks gorgeous but is disabled in many interiors cells. The only workaround I found is to modify the lighting setting of each of the cells in the Creation kit : tick the "SHOW SKY" box in the lighting tab of the cell and SSAO works. It is a tedious job because many cells are concerned.

For instance nearly all Windhelm and Riften interiors have the box "Show sky" unticked in the CK, thus preventing SSAO to work in those places. Good example is coc riftenbeeandbarb.

I think this behaviour began with ENB 0.126. Same problem in 0.135 and later tests.

Disabling/enabling sky and/or skylighting in enbseries.ini has no effect on this issue. I tried to disable/modify nearly all features of enbseries.ini with no success, until I found the unticked "show sky" box in the CK

I used a fresh legit install of skyrim without any mod. I use an AMD card with latest drivers.

Am I the only one having this issue? Do you think this is solvable without using the CK?

Thanks in advance! And thanks for your amazing work!

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 01:12
by ENBSeries
It's not disabled. Search my forum posts by "AOType" keyword or "AOMixingType", there are several descriptions how it work, how to change and why.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 13 Jan 2013, 01:54
by oglala
I tested those parameters again, both with GUI and ini text file, but ssao still does not work in some interior cells.

But don't worry, if I'm the only one having this issue I'll find a way to force "show sky" in every cell.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 14 Jan 2013, 23:24
by Bambi
I can confim this issue, SSAO is missing in interiors.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 14 Jan 2013, 23:37
by ENBSeries
You can't.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 00:48
by oglala
SSAO works perfectly indoors, but some interior cells (+-40%) have sky disabled ("show sky" box unticked in the CK). Same problem in v0.138.

If I understand correctly, your method uses sky data. The problem is that some interiors in vanilla skyrim have sky disabled.

ENB admin, do you really see SSAO in Riften or Windhelm interiors? If yes, then the bug is on my side, sorry to bother you.

@Bambi : is your SSAO missing in every interior? Could you check Warmaidens in Whiterun (ssao) and Bee and Barb in Riften (no ssao)? I want to know if other people have missing ssao only in SOME cells. I could release an .esp to force ssao in every interior cell.

TIA :)

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 00:54
by ENBSeries
I see ssao everywhere, because know where too look. It simply not very much visible, because ambient color for interior scenes is very low and i decrease it by ssao (it's absolutely not same as in other games where ssao applied on to entire screen always).

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 01:15
by oglala
Yes but I like ssao so I set it to be very noticeable. It is very visible in my game, except in interiors with sky disabled.

Here is a picture of the culprit parameter :

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If I tick this box and save the mod, I have a very visible ssao in the corresponding cell. I'm trying to find a way to force every cell to have this box ticked. If I succeed I'll ask permission to Mr. Vorontsov to release it as an .esp on skyrim nexus.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 01:59
by ENBSeries
You don't need my permission, only posting binary file of ENBSeries is prohibited there, but any other - no problem, it's your property.

EDIT: i don't know any interior where sky not exist, even if it's black. In Fallout on the contrary.

Re: Skyrim - no SSAO in cells without sky

Posted: 15 Jan 2013, 02:55
by oglala
Thanks for your fast answear.
i don't know any interior where sky not exist, even if it's black.
You can check in the creation kit, nearly half of interiors have sky disabled. Riftenbeeandbarb is an example.

I may be wrong but fixing this could stop people complaining about lack of ssao inside. But I have a hard time trying to batch modify all interior cells. I'll keep you updated on this.

Maybe some setting in skyrimpref.ini can force "show sky" in every interior.