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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2015, 00:46 
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ENBSeries wrote:
Then the only suggestion is to check if no crapware running. Debugging such issue without same bug on my pc is impossible, so trials and errors the only your way. Try to toggle on/off various parameters of water in enbseries.ini (from internal editor of course), may be some combo will work.

Thanks for the suggestions, I'll see if I can find a combo that makes things a bit nicer for the meantime, I think in the long run I'll have to somehow figure out what is going on as it seems to crop up in a few other games from time to time too. It's such a strange issue, not been able to find anyone who's even seen it before, I have a feeling it may have something to do with the video card itself (though I don't think it started until after Win10 install, maybe corrupt DirectX Lib?). But if I send it in and the only problem it has is faulty transparency on underlying terrain meshes I'll just get the same card back in a week. So I'm kind of in a hard place haha, appreciate your time!


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No, it's not because of card itself, such bug have small list of reasons to appear and not any of them is pure hardware issue. May be game setting or some mod caused that as "side effect" of hidden game bug. With AMD cards i just know about hardware specific bug for all games when texture coordinates are shifted a little, but how it may produce similar to wireframe mode is hard to describe. Even half pixel shift option in very old AMD drivers is different thing. Dynamic waves are just drawed big grid of triangles around the character, game must generate it always the same way without any skips in uv coordinates on edges. Also as i remember, there are two objects drawed and main water is drawed too, but masked by waves, so may be it have that wireframe look at areas where stencil mask buggy, somehow. Crapware may ruin proper render states flow, but i've never seen such impact reported, almost all bugs are transparency related and crashes.

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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2015, 01:29 
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Glad you also don't think it's hardware related, agree that it doesn't look like any signs of faulty hardware I've ever heard of or seen, but pensive at the same time. It happens to the bomb craters in a game called War Thunder as well http://i.imgur.com/VsBmm3a.jpg
Seems to be that any texture on a mesh being marked as transparent causes the mesh to still be visible for some reason. If it isn't hardware I think maybe my windows 10 install was bunk, I'll grab a usb and try a clean windows install, maybe my dx libs somehow got corrupted. As far as crapware goes this is a minimal install PC, lots of backed up docs and old pictures, etc. but only a handful of programs; symantec, msi afterburner, steam, and base windows services are all I allow to run at startup and it stays that way during operation.


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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2015, 02:22 
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Afterburner is crapware, as any other software which hooks in to game process, you even may not know about this, like with Logitek and Razer utils.

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PostPosted: 13 Dec 2015, 02:56 
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I know it's quasi-bloatware and I've seen your recommendations against it before, but the fan profiles and voltage-unlocked overclocking are worth it, plus it's never caused any issues for me before (especially since I never install the riva-tuner adware which, from my understanding at least, is what really hooks into the games. Otherwise allot of people seem to think afterburner can be set to be mostly hands off).

More to the point I did try it without MSI afterburner running with a clean boot and it didn't change anything, was one of the first things I tried since you listed it as a program which could directly conflict with your ENB's XD (And also because I've been trying to figure this out for over a month now and have plenty of time to try out a slew of different things =/ ) I do my best to look up and really understand different issues before I try to do anything and especially before I occupy other people's time lol.

I'll let you know if the Clean windows install does anything, might take me a few days to grab an alternate HDD though as both of mine are currently needed. And thanks again for the suggestions! The reassurance of some information helps lol, you have infinitely more experience with drivers and this sort of thing in general... and you're honestly the only person who's even tried to offer an explanation. Really appreciate it and consider not using an ENB profile to be no form of solution at all :lol: .


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2015, 09:35 
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=( Clean windows install, brand new download of the directx 9c libraries, no afterburner or anything for that matter.. Still have weird meshes, even on a different video card. http://i.imgur.com/Nv146y5.png Is the water supposed to be completely flat despite parallax textures and start having weird reflections when you're level with it?


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2015, 16:13 
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I will not answer unless you show parameters enabled and screenshots at different angles.

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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2015, 20:00 
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http://imgur.com/a/yAiWC
Can't seem to capture screenshots of below the water and the water-line at the same time, odd. Hope the enb settings are the proper ones =/


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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2015, 22:44 
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With those parameters water looks about the same, because WavesAmplitude*** is 3 times lower than should be. Regarding underwater, i don't know what is that, if no mods installed which modify water properties (may be via weather?), then only crapware and drivers (but it's first time i see both wireframe and milk underwater bugs). Have no idea what to recommend.

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PostPosted: 17 Dec 2015, 23:00 
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Since it's a clean windows crapware is out for sure, Underwater looks fine in-game but will not let me take pictures of it unless the surface is completely out of view, I'm out of ideas too. Only things touching water are AOS and Realistic water two. It definitely happens in another game (war thunder) with bomb craters, but I have no idea what the correlation would be between them. I initially thought it might be some weird problem with parallax textures, but that wouldn't carry over to another game. I'm stumped lol.


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