though several stuff falls apart for me the snow on the mountains i need a much better one and i would need to optimize the lod first and need a big area that would be loaded completely into ram
And i would need to be really careful with the Horizon Skybox Edge obviously in post i could still try to fix those
And i should avoid showing to much of the Mountains tops and so their Spiked Polygons some could detect that easily as CG
What really surprises me i see no Z-Fighting going on
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Boris;
I'm starting to get that feeling as well judging by posts I've read about Dell monitors. Well if you already have a good screen that suits your needs than why trade up. a $1000 is way to step for me though.
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Yeah for "accurate" displaying to make " I fooled you into thinking it's real" video clip you will need to some pretty major adjustments.
I'm starting to get that feeling as well judging by posts I've read about Dell monitors. Well if you already have a good screen that suits your needs than why trade up. a $1000 is way to step for me though.
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Yeah for "accurate" displaying to make " I fooled you into thinking it's real" video clip you will need to some pretty major adjustments.
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Though definitely i would need a special CE ini with maximum View setup so i can avoid as much as possible of this here
Boris Memory Streaming is very efficient here latency is perfect for the whole scene ugrid 5 it consumes around 900 MB currently so still plenty of Memory left and if i close Firefox i get another 800 MB
Maybe i could risk higher ugrid and cell buffer too keep more terrain in Memory cached
I really have the style i want to pursue now
Now i can even start Scarlet ENB from Scratch and update my pretty old codebase and hopefully get rid of the SSAO and IBL issues i know exactly what i want now
My ENB really just waited for you --JawZ-- and ELE we surely share the same Vision in some way
It's so great to see and feel the consistency and that in every FRAME finally, except the minor asset issues
sorry and forgive me all that flooding but im totally blasted away
Boris Memory Streaming is very efficient here latency is perfect for the whole scene ugrid 5 it consumes around 900 MB currently so still plenty of Memory left and if i close Firefox i get another 800 MB
Maybe i could risk higher ugrid and cell buffer too keep more terrain in Memory cached
I really have the style i want to pursue now
Now i can even start Scarlet ENB from Scratch and update my pretty old codebase and hopefully get rid of the SSAO and IBL issues i know exactly what i want now
My ENB really just waited for you --JawZ-- and ELE we surely share the same Vision in some way
It's so great to see and feel the consistency and that in every FRAME finally, except the minor asset issues
sorry and forgive me all that flooding but im totally blasted away
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Mmm, more ENBs utilizing ELE. :3
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@ Jawz, respectable monitor reviews are HARD to find. Generally speaking the only source I trust is TFTCentral, they do real, professional tests. (http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm , http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2412m.htm)
The U2410 is a bit old at this point, but it's an absolutely amazing screen as far as professional use goes, especially when you consider its price. I use mine with my Mac, which is my work PC. I bought mine several years ago for £700 and I would do it again. (And, as I mention, I work with design and photography so I have high demands.) The ONLY thing that can annoy some people is the anti-glare coating. You get 0% sunglare, but it looks a little bit noisy before you get used it.
The U2412M is equally amazing, but it's cheaper and has a slightly different audience in mind. I use mine on my Windows PC, because it's more pleasant to look at for long periods of gaming due to a *slightly* faster response time and lower input lag (although the U2410 is already very good at this). It's not as good for editing and viewing graphics, but it's definitely a respectable contender. In the price range there's no real competitor. It does not have the sunglare coating.
The U2713HM is a very good screen to. I don't have much personal experience with it because I found that 27" is too large for long-term usage (I had a 27" iMac for a long time). You can read a proper review here: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2713hm.htm
Keep in mind that 'dynamic contrast' is nonsense and should be ignored, and LED backlighting aren't necessarily always better. In many cases, especially at low and mid range screens, LED lighting will be too strong and cause issues with everything from black levels to colour uniformity. Also keep in mind that response times (OMFG 2MS RESPONSE TIME GUSY!!") is rubbish. You want grey-to-grey response times, and more importantly (for games), the input lag which is not an advertised feature.
That's my seven cents.
And as always, I've got to say, ELE för vinsten!
The U2410 is a bit old at this point, but it's an absolutely amazing screen as far as professional use goes, especially when you consider its price. I use mine with my Mac, which is my work PC. I bought mine several years ago for £700 and I would do it again. (And, as I mention, I work with design and photography so I have high demands.) The ONLY thing that can annoy some people is the anti-glare coating. You get 0% sunglare, but it looks a little bit noisy before you get used it.
The U2412M is equally amazing, but it's cheaper and has a slightly different audience in mind. I use mine on my Windows PC, because it's more pleasant to look at for long periods of gaming due to a *slightly* faster response time and lower input lag (although the U2410 is already very good at this). It's not as good for editing and viewing graphics, but it's definitely a respectable contender. In the price range there's no real competitor. It does not have the sunglare coating.
The U2713HM is a very good screen to. I don't have much personal experience with it because I found that 27" is too large for long-term usage (I had a 27" iMac for a long time). You can read a proper review here: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2713hm.htm
Keep in mind that 'dynamic contrast' is nonsense and should be ignored, and LED backlighting aren't necessarily always better. In many cases, especially at low and mid range screens, LED lighting will be too strong and cause issues with everything from black levels to colour uniformity. Also keep in mind that response times (OMFG 2MS RESPONSE TIME GUSY!!") is rubbish. You want grey-to-grey response times, and more importantly (for games), the input lag which is not an advertised feature.
That's my seven cents.
And as always, I've got to say, ELE för vinsten!
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Oh and yeah, stunning shots Crunch. Good going with the helicopter thing.
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CruNcher;
First of really impressive set of photos there my friend, been so used to see 1 or 2 photos that is environmental from you, you've really literally taken ELE to it's next level with that preset
Well now with the 0.200 and up oming versions I can't see how one can pass up the opportunity to go a bit crazy with ones memory usage by upping some settings
Syrophir;
Yeah and in the next few days hopefully more as it will get more finished by then
Fequois;
Jag tar dä på svenska, nyss vaknat från en "power nap", öörk
TFTCentral har jag märkt är en bra sida för monitor recensioner också å använder den ganska ofta bland andra sidor å personer för att ta in i "besluts cirkeln".
Å fan visste inte att du hållde på med fotografi å, nyss ungefär börjat komma in på den fronten sj. Kanske kan fråga dig om lite andra grejer än monitorer sen också via PM då
Iaf oavsett vad saken gäller när det kommer till vad jag köper så tar jag riktigt god tid på mig att göra en ordentlig genomgång om vad jag behöver, pris vs prestanda å överlag vad som har fått bra omdömen. Ibland har jag gått igenom saker I över ett halv år för att vara säker på att just detta passar bra nu å en bra tid framöver utan att behöva byta ut det ganska så "tidigt", årtal pratar vi här.
eyh eyh, vad kallade du din Mac hehe nejdå
Jag har en full glänsande skärm å en med gläns skydd å tro mig jag tar en med glänss skydd varje dag eftersom jag inte direkt använder ett rum med "mjukt" kontrollerat ljus, har fönster ruta ~60 CM från sidan av skärmen vilket är väldigt störande att arbeta i när man håller på med mörka bilder å färger.
Som sagt spel skärm har jag redan en, och som leverar bra färger med en helt ok ljus fördelning på mitt exmplar, letar efter en som endast ska vara för foto, video å ja arbets skärm, skulle va gött å ha en 27" så bägge är i samma ytter dimension men en 24" är helt ok också. Sitter på Samsungen 27" å en Philips 234EL skärm nu så.
Uh nej tack efter allt jag läst om H å HM versionene tittar jag nog å ett annat håll, inte läst nånstans där en person inte har varit tvungen å lämna in sin skärm åtminstone en gång för att få en ok skärm att använda utan några liknande stora problem som den första de fick.
Dä va därför jag la in detta "samma kontrast (ej dynamiska)", vet mycket väl att den dynamiska kontrasten är mer ett försäljningsknep än nånting annat, ingen skärm jag tittat på har varit över 1000:1 å jag ser inte riktigt varför det skulle behövas gå upp till 20 mille:1 för att få till en bra kontrast i en skärm
Jo jag vet det är lite mer si å så med LED's å skapar oftast en ojämn fördelning av färger å speciellt ljus överlag, därför jag nämnde till CruNcher att jag ska titta bort från RGB LEDS, bra fär återgivning i ett bra exemplar kanske men mer sköra än vita LEDS Kolla t;ex dessa bilder som finns i länken te sweclockers.se om U2713H skärmen, detta är ju inte direkt bästa "you see what you get" jämförelse men duger för att visa vad jag menar iaf;
Bild 1 - http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/tqowxladypfvd/
Bild 2 - http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/psluluvkyhitob/
Grå till Grå vet jag också mycket väl om och oftast så är de antalet ms företagen utger skärmen för att ha väldigt avrundad åt rätt håll lr taget från luften å klistrat på till å med.
Tack för infon iaf men jag har faktiskt lite koll på saker å ting men man kan aldrig få för mycket "kött på benen" om saker å ting
Ska u2410 i bakhuvudet när jag titar efter skärmar
First of really impressive set of photos there my friend, been so used to see 1 or 2 photos that is environmental from you, you've really literally taken ELE to it's next level with that preset
Well now with the 0.200 and up oming versions I can't see how one can pass up the opportunity to go a bit crazy with ones memory usage by upping some settings
Syrophir;
Yeah and in the next few days hopefully more as it will get more finished by then
Fequois;
Jag tar dä på svenska, nyss vaknat från en "power nap", öörk
TFTCentral har jag märkt är en bra sida för monitor recensioner också å använder den ganska ofta bland andra sidor å personer för att ta in i "besluts cirkeln".
Å fan visste inte att du hållde på med fotografi å, nyss ungefär börjat komma in på den fronten sj. Kanske kan fråga dig om lite andra grejer än monitorer sen också via PM då
Iaf oavsett vad saken gäller när det kommer till vad jag köper så tar jag riktigt god tid på mig att göra en ordentlig genomgång om vad jag behöver, pris vs prestanda å överlag vad som har fått bra omdömen. Ibland har jag gått igenom saker I över ett halv år för att vara säker på att just detta passar bra nu å en bra tid framöver utan att behöva byta ut det ganska så "tidigt", årtal pratar vi här.
eyh eyh, vad kallade du din Mac hehe nejdå
Jag har en full glänsande skärm å en med gläns skydd å tro mig jag tar en med glänss skydd varje dag eftersom jag inte direkt använder ett rum med "mjukt" kontrollerat ljus, har fönster ruta ~60 CM från sidan av skärmen vilket är väldigt störande att arbeta i när man håller på med mörka bilder å färger.
Som sagt spel skärm har jag redan en, och som leverar bra färger med en helt ok ljus fördelning på mitt exmplar, letar efter en som endast ska vara för foto, video å ja arbets skärm, skulle va gött å ha en 27" så bägge är i samma ytter dimension men en 24" är helt ok också. Sitter på Samsungen 27" å en Philips 234EL skärm nu så.
Uh nej tack efter allt jag läst om H å HM versionene tittar jag nog å ett annat håll, inte läst nånstans där en person inte har varit tvungen å lämna in sin skärm åtminstone en gång för att få en ok skärm att använda utan några liknande stora problem som den första de fick.
Dä va därför jag la in detta "samma kontrast (ej dynamiska)", vet mycket väl att den dynamiska kontrasten är mer ett försäljningsknep än nånting annat, ingen skärm jag tittat på har varit över 1000:1 å jag ser inte riktigt varför det skulle behövas gå upp till 20 mille:1 för att få till en bra kontrast i en skärm
Jo jag vet det är lite mer si å så med LED's å skapar oftast en ojämn fördelning av färger å speciellt ljus överlag, därför jag nämnde till CruNcher att jag ska titta bort från RGB LEDS, bra fär återgivning i ett bra exemplar kanske men mer sköra än vita LEDS Kolla t;ex dessa bilder som finns i länken te sweclockers.se om U2713H skärmen, detta är ju inte direkt bästa "you see what you get" jämförelse men duger för att visa vad jag menar iaf;
Bild 1 - http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/tqowxladypfvd/
Bild 2 - http://www.ladda-upp.se/bilder/psluluvkyhitob/
Grå till Grå vet jag också mycket väl om och oftast så är de antalet ms företagen utger skärmen för att ha väldigt avrundad åt rätt håll lr taget från luften å klistrat på till å med.
Tack för infon iaf men jag har faktiskt lite koll på saker å ting men man kan aldrig få för mycket "kött på benen" om saker å ting
Ska u2410 i bakhuvudet när jag titar efter skärmar
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Think I stumbled upon the cause of the darkness problem I had with ELE + Tundra ENB sometimes. It seems with clear skies weather nights get darker than this mod or the ENB intents and when your weather isn't there nights aren't that dark might do the opposite to days aswell but the effect isn't that harsh. If this is the case I'll just live with it, and wait for your test release.
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I have gone over LOD textures to enhance the balance between a certain grass type and the Tree LOD's and make it possible for me to do a better looking close up grass without destroying the LOD Tree line and it has worked but as soon as I up the ambient or especially the Directlighting the LOD Trees look blinding because of it.
So i looked over some LOD trees found at the nexus and compare them all and found that AOF Tree LOD is the best out of the bunch avaialble, and it comes in several sizes from 1k up to 4K uncompressed version. So in ELE - Weathers I will highly recommend the usage of those textures to allow me to improve the grass lighting up close while keeping the TREE LODS intact.
Preview shoots of current ELE Weathers with optimized colors for both grass and tree LODS;
And after with AOF Tree LOD 2k version;
It will be fine with whatever resolution you choose and if you want a 512 texture I suggest that you download the uncompressed version, use Photoshop with the Nvidia tool and change the resolution to 512 and use the DXT5 compression method, instead of for instance downloading the 1K resolution and re-size it to 512 directly as that will most likely lead to a lower quality image than the method with the uncompressed version.
I even recommend using that mod in ELE's current released versions.
Also here is what you can expect to come during this week regarding ELE, if nothing else comes up;
I have gone over LOD textures to enhance the balance between a certain grass type and the Tree LOD's and make it possible for me to do a better looking close up grass without destroying the LOD Tree line and it has worked but as soon as I up the ambient or especially the Directlighting the LOD Trees look blinding because of it.
So i looked over some LOD trees found at the nexus and compare them all and found that AOF Tree LOD is the best out of the bunch avaialble, and it comes in several sizes from 1k up to 4K uncompressed version. So in ELE - Weathers I will highly recommend the usage of those textures to allow me to improve the grass lighting up close while keeping the TREE LODS intact.
Preview shoots of current ELE Weathers with optimized colors for both grass and tree LODS;
And after with AOF Tree LOD 2k version;
It will be fine with whatever resolution you choose and if you want a 512 texture I suggest that you download the uncompressed version, use Photoshop with the Nvidia tool and change the resolution to 512 and use the DXT5 compression method, instead of for instance downloading the 1K resolution and re-size it to 512 directly as that will most likely lead to a lower quality image than the method with the uncompressed version.
I even recommend using that mod in ELE's current released versions.
Also here is what you can expect to come during this week regarding ELE, if nothing else comes up;
- All Tundra weathers will be covered and perhaps the snow weathers currently in Mindflux Snow FX with of course the Snow FX implemented.
- My ELE - Imagespace.esp will have it's adaptive interiors added again and updated with more appropriate colors then the last test file with the adaptive interiors, Will noly cover Whiterun interiors for now and all of the Whiterun interiors now has a sky with adjusted night day trigger done the right way.
- ELE Dragonborn - Light Bulbs module will be released for the first time with full coverage though that does not mean finished just thatI have covered every interior with Light Bulb changes.
- If there is time I will release an update to my ELE - Spell &Torch lighting as well as introduce a new module, ELE - Special Lighting that covers a range of visual effects thatoccurs during special events or activated trhough magic or ability like the night eye effect.
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Re: Enhanced Lightning for ENB, updated 07/25
Well vanilla weather nights are brighter than mine so whenever you start a weather transition during the night going from my weathers to vanilla weather it will get brighter during the nights. And so it will be until I have covered every weather.Syrophir wrote:Think I stumbled upon the cause of the darkness problem I had with ELE + Tundra ENB sometimes. It seems with clear skies weather nights get darker than this mod or the ENB intents and when your weather isn't there nights aren't that dark might do the opposite to days aswell but the effect isn't that harsh. If this is the case I'll just live with it, and wait for your test release.