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Re: TES Skyrim 0.193

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charlievoviii wrote: do you know the difference between ENB GUI and SPM OSD ? Also the v193 is updated and work with SPM;)

Realvision ENB doesnt work with ENB v193. The creator clearly stated to use either ENB version: 0.168 or 13.7.13
A: Since Skyrim won't load AT ALL on my system running SPM with .193, I think worrying about the ENB GUI is unnecessary.
B: Since I'm running RealVision ENB with .193, your argument is invalid. Have a nice day. 8-)

Realvision ENB doesnt make ENB for the new v193. You can't just use whatever ENB series you want, you have to use what the ENB creator recommend. Also when did you download the v193 ? cause that version have been updated like 2-3 times now in the last 48 hours.

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Xilandro wrote: Hi man, howdy. FYI everything is working great now with updated mod, no need to start holy war here k?) And yeah, best solution is just stom using SPM if you have troubles with it, Boris is making mod for Skyrim, not a compatibility patch for SPM. Have a nice day.
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@ Boris
You mentioned that you kept EnableFPSLimit=true. Why is that? Is it due to physics issue? Would it not be better to use your VSync method instead, given that you told me some time ago that your framerate limiter does not necessarily work with some GPUs?
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charlievoviii wrote: Realvision ENB doesnt make ENB for the new v193. You can't just use whatever ENB series you want, you have to use what the ENB creator recommend. Also when did you download the v193 ? cause that version have been updated like 2-3 times now in the last 48 hours.

I'm sorry, I thought this was my computer, and I could do whatever the hell I want to with it.
I've just downloaded the latest and am comparing files.

Boris,

Which settings take precedence? The enblocal.ini in the latest .193, or the ones in ENBoost?

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.193

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Xilandro wrote: Hi man, howdy. FYI everything is working great now with updated mod, no need to start holy war here k?) And yeah, best solution is just stom using SPM if you have troubles with it, Boris is making mod for Skyrim, not a compatibility patch for SPM. Have a nice day.
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lol k but what i have said is true. Can't run spm with ENB - don't use spm. What's your problem then? Why Boris should fix issues of SPM? Go on SPM page and ask for patch from SPM developers, k?

p.s. charlievoviii is right, if you want to have graphics just like at screenshots\videos from realvision - you need to use recommended mod version, sometimes newer ENB versions looks very different with presets based on older mod versions. Keep this in mind. And if you think i'm trolling you - you're in deep dark forest of misunderstanding.
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t113 wrote: lol k but what i have said is true. Can't run spm with ENB - don't use spm. What's your problem then? Why Boris should fix issues of SPM? Go on SPM page and ask for patch from SPM developers, k?

p.s. charlievoviii is right, if you want to have graphics just like at screenshots\videos from realvision - you need to use recommended mod version, sometimes newer ENB versions looks very different with presets based on older mod versions. Keep this in mind. And if you think i'm trolling you - you're in deep dark forest of misunderstanding.
No worries, I was referring to someone else. :)
Re: SPM, I was only using it to see the memory diffs running .193 vs .192 - I quit when it was giving me trouble.
I ordinarily only run it when I'm diagnosing an issue.
I already know different releases of ENB handle things differently, for me a slight difference in brightness, saturation and whatnot is worth the tradeoff for less RAM usage and less CTDs.

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charlievoviii wrote: Realvision ENB doesnt make ENB for the new v193. You can't just use whatever ENB series you want, you have to use what the ENB creator recommend. Also when did you download the v193 ? cause that version have been updated like 2-3 times now in the last 48 hours.

I'm sorry, I thought this was my computer, and I could do whatever the hell I want to with it.
I've just downloaded the latest and am comparing files.
it got nothing with you and this have nothing to what you do with your computer. I'm trying to explain and help you understand how ENB work, but I gave up. ;)
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Xilandro wrote: Hi man, howdy. FYI everything is working great now with updated mod, no need to start holy war here k?) And yeah, best solution is just stom using SPM if you have troubles with it, Boris is making mod for Skyrim, not a compatibility patch for SPM. Have a nice day.
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lol k but what i have said is true. Can't run spm with ENB - don't use spm. What's your problem then? Why Boris should fix issues of SPM? Go on SPM page and ask for patch from SPM developers, k?

p.s. charlievoviii is right, if you want to have graphics just like at screenshots\videos from realvision - you need to use recommended mod version, sometimes newer ENB versions looks very different with presets based on older mod versions. Keep this in mind. And if you think i'm trolling you - you're in deep dark forest of misunderstanding.

he's missing the point of each ENB serries settings are different. He doesnt understand why. There's a reason why each ENB creator/tweaker recommend a specific ENB series version like you said.
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Sorry, but i have bad experience, each modder is on own mind and will not do anything which will not make him/her more popular/respective/endorsed, that's why everytime i ask for help i don't have any response and only few modders trying to help, but they get bored fast. You are too much optimistic.
I guess Boris refer mostly to "Tessellation" as a DX11 feature.
Modders unable to make tesselation "ready" models, because it's absolutely different modelling task, all geometry must be created from scratch.

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I dont' want to talk about dx11 features, you may dream about them, but the time for me vs result doesn't cost of it, i can earn a lot of money instead of developing such things (or to watch anime). Modders can't do extra features even for dx9 version of the mod.

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You mentioned that you kept EnableFPSLimit=true. Why is that? Is it due to physics issue?
Yes. But i don't know why it makes 3 fps for some rigs, even after changes i did to the frame limiter code.
Would it not be better to use your VSync method instead
Vsync have limit at much lower value. Anyway this is on user's side.

t113
Which settings take precedence? The enblocal.ini in the latest .193, or the ones in ENBoost?
They are equal. ENBoost for users who don't want to use graphics or simply thinking that ENB is graphics only. Old users of ENBSeries don't need to care about ENBoost, they already know everything.

Btw, i posted article how to convert old preset to new, hope it helps
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@ Boris
Thank you, I understand.
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charlievoviii wrote: it got nothing with you and this have nothing to what you do with your computer. I'm trying to explain and help you understand how ENB work, but I gave up. ;)
he's missing the point of each ENB serries settings are different. He doesnt understand why. There's a reason why each ENB creator/tweaker recommend a specific ENB series version like you said.
Actually, I got annoyed when you told me SPM was working perfectly, didn't I read?, then told another poster that SPM did not work 'perfectly'.
It seemed to me you were not trying to help, just mock others.

I've been modding my copy of skyrim since release, I'm not new. I know how the various ENB configs work, and understand that different releases of ENB do things differently. That doesn't mean I absolutely have to use the version the ENB config author recommends. If I wanted to 'play by the book', I wouldn't be modding in the first place.

I've missed my window for actually playing Skyrim this morning playing footsie with you, so I'll leave saying 'Have a nice day', and I mean it.
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