TES Skyrim 0.264

[Jafin16]

hager13
Skyrim handles light very poorly. The only way to fix light sources really is to change the light radius in the CK, which those mods you've found do. ENB can help mask the issue by altering the intensity and curve of pointlighting, but there's no real way to fix it. Unless Boris has some sort of magic up his sleeve but I think it's been addressed before and there wasn't anything that could be done.

[ENBSeries]

hager13
Light fading for hdr processing must be different, probably this is what you mean. Now most point lights looks like sphere lit in dark space, very unnatural. But i can't change that without huge visual difference, brightness will fade much faster with distance or/and closer to source it will be very intense (overexposed if tonemapping is not correct).

[zoxxi]

Hey Boris, big thanks for ALT+F4 hotkey!

Can a make a little trollercoaster here? Actually it's not intended to be a trollercoaster, but it may look like.
Soo... Guys, maybe some of you have a similar problem with Skyrim?
It's about shimmering textutes. Shimmering water. Shimmering distant roads, trees and grass. Even Allah, Adonai and all of that funny compamy are shimmering when i run my Skyrim.
*Damn fascist antispam module doesn't allow me to post a link to youtube video, but you can find it by "skyrim shimmering textures" request in google.*

Moreover, it's not just Skyrim. I recently reinstalled Oblivion and - what the fuck? - saw a lot of shimmering.
Windows reinstall does not help. I even tried to rebuild my pc in case of bad contact of some details and clened it from highload of dust. Nothing helps.
So i went to the streets, murdered some prostitutes, just to calm down, returned to my home and started searching people with similar problem of the web.
And... well, fuck, just take a look:
http://i.imgur.com/KasBvaK.png
And i found this sutuation quite possible, because i really remember that Skyrim and Oblivion worked fine on my PC. For some time.
On a Nvidia forums there is a lot of guys with similar problem. But a have not find a solution yet.
Boris? You're a true techowizard, perhaps you can help me with that? Or just.. anyone? :3

My PC configuration, just in case.
Intel i7 3770K
2x ASUS GTX680 4GB
Latest Nvidia Drivers.
Asus Maximus Extreme V motherboard
Corsair AX1200i PSU
Samsing DDRIII memory, 12 gb.
Intel SSD.


Ah, and a last thing. It can be mostly fixed by enabling ENB's TAA in Skyrim, but in this case my framerate is very bad and i have some annoying articafts.
Thanks.

[ENBSeries]

I don't know what shimmering is, never saw it, plus players do not know how things named and rarely able to describe. May be it's just texture filtering issues (forced in driver)?

[Viscerous]

He's referring to temporal (shader) aliasing. Also goes by titles such as shimmering, pixel crawl, and probably some funnier ones. Temporal anti-aliasing is pretty much made exactly to resolve this, so no. There isn't really another solution. Downsampling and supersampling might help but will very, very likely impact performance much more than ENB's TAA.

[Jafin16]

Downsampling will solve it but at a huge performance hit. TAA solves it as that's what it's made for. Even MSAA does a fairly good job, but MSAA isn't really an option with ENB (not if you want things like AO or half of the effects) or most other modern games that don't have the option to enable it in game (forcing by driver often doesn't work). If you have the option, even running the game natively at 2560x1440 if you have a monitor that supports it will reduce or eliminate the issue. I've come to the sad realization I just gotta deal with it. You get used to it after awhile.

[zoxxi]

Meh. Thanks guys. About downsampling, i usually play Skyrim at 2560x1440 or 2880x1620, but i am not satisfied with image quality even at 4k, lol. Maybe i am some kind of graphics pervert.
There is small improvment of this issue by forcing 8x Supersampling in Invidia Inspector with 0x000010C1 AA flag. And raising Nvidia's DSR Smoothness parameter also helps a lot, but, but.... I thought maybe there is some magick fix for it.
Okay, now i will try to find some virgins (perhaps i'll just have to politely ask Th3nd0 to give me some) and summon some Goethia spirit to ask him if he knows how to fix it. And if he has ho idea then i'll just blur the fuck out all of the screen in my ENB.

[Jafin16]

zoxxi
Have you tried Downsampling and Uber-SMAA together with no other AA options? I've not tried this myself (for my purposes downsampling is too much of a performance hit to be worth it) but I hear it works wonders for AA. As another thought you could try using prod80's effect.txt from Serenity and turn the sharpening way down (or off) and increase the edge smoothing a bunch, along with SMAA and the resolutions you run at might also work.

Just use SMAA, FXAA, EdgeAA, MLAA (if you've got it), TXAA (if you've got that), ENB's TAA, Transparency AA, remove all sharpening and voila, screen blurred to a mess of colors! =P Just a thought Oh and use Kyo's DoF at Quality 7.

Actually, as a slight afterthought, have you double checked you're not using a negative LOD bias? That can cause shimmering like none other in my experience. Unfortunately, Skyrim will always have shimmer to some degree... it's Skyrim. :-\

[zoxxi]

Jafin16
Sorry for late reply.
You know what? You're a wizard! Thank you, thank you very much. You just posted some info and now a have a gift i never dreamed of.
Sooo... I managed to get rid of most of shimmering!
I enabled ultra presets of SMAA, FXAA (copy-pasted from RadeonPro), all of ENB's AA execpt TAA, used some shady TRSAA parameter in Nvidia Inspector and somehow managed to work MLAA of my setup, just had to install drivers for integrated Intel's videocard. It seems that Intel have some version of MLAA that runs of cpu only. I also disabled all types of sharpen as you suggested. LOD Bias was alrezdy set to null.
Now I play Skyrim on 2880x1620 and sometimes I just notice a little, very little shimmer of npc's haircuts. Water, trees, lods, grass, eveything is close to perfect.
Thanks again! :3
P.S. I hope it's not because ENB has recently found some new pretty videocard to eat.
P.P.S. Forgive me my grammar, i have not slept about 3 days and my english sometimes really, really sucks even when i'm okay, lol.

[Jafin16]

zoxxi
LOL, I was actually half-joking with all of those AA techniques, but, hey! if it works, go right ahead! Glad I could help =P