Skyrim Transparent Object Bug

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Re: Skyrim Transparent Object Bug

ENBSeries wrote: 03 Mar 2023, 20:14 It is not looks wrong, but how designed by author, who requested from me to fix refraction bug.
Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, lol. What I mean, on the picture with ENB off the jar looks more like glass with all the distortions and stuff. What do I need to do to get the same look with ENB on ?

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You are not discord user and there this was discussed much enough. Vanilla jar was fixed to have refraction applied correctly instead of weird zooming based on camera distance and shift to side.
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These screenshots how vanilla jar have weird zooming when camera distance change. Can't find image of the bug with shifted distortion, it makes bottles looks like second copy of it there.
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Updated mod silently to prevent this issue in future. If alpha channel is white, then vanilla refraction without any bug fixes and thickness is used. If below 251, then modified refraction. And mod in this topic use invalid alpha, so those ice things not gonna work right anyway.
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ENBSeries wrote: 04 Mar 2023, 01:09 You are not discord user and there this was discussed much enough. Vanilla jar was fixed to have refraction applied correctly instead of weird zooming based on camera distance and shift to side.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... /image.png
These screenshots how vanilla jar have weird zooming when camera distance change. Can't find image of the bug with shifted distortion, it makes bottles looks like second copy of it there.
I am Discord user, but I'm using it differntly - logging in once or twice a day and checking if there are new messages and then logging out. Rarely I check all the topics one by one on every channel I've subscribed to. Just have not enought time.

But yeah, maybe I'm weird, but to me these screenshots seem more realistic somehow.

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ENBSeries wrote: 04 Mar 2023, 01:42 Updated mod silently to prevent this issue in future. If alpha channel is white, then vanilla refraction without any bug fixes and thickness is used. If below 251, then modified refraction. And mod in this topic use invalid alpha, so those ice things not gonna work right anyway.
So, to choose between fixed and vanilla I have to modify this number and that's it ?

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Re: Skyrim Transparent Object Bug

Make alpha white and you will have vanilla refraction with all it's bugs.
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Ok, but what if the alpha is black and white image, not just one color?
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ENBSeries wrote: 04 Mar 2023, 01:42 Updated mod silently to prevent this issue in future. If alpha channel is white, then vanilla refraction without any bug fixes and thickness is used. If below 251, then modified refraction. And mod in this topic use invalid alpha, so those ice things not gonna work right anyway.
After this update everything is ok. Icicles are transparent again and jar looks like a real glass (with immersive imperfections)

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Do you want to piss me off? How many times i must saythat mod is designed to look as it looks with latest versions of ENBSeries. Not like you think glass should looks like because you get used to buggy game refraction.
Ok, but what if the alpha is black and white image, not just one color?
It means modder don't know what he or she is doing. Alpha is not used at all by the game.
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ENBSeries wrote: 04 Mar 2023, 18:49 Do you want to piss me off? How many times i must saythat mod is designed to look as it looks with latest versions of ENBSeries. Not like you think glass should looks like because you get used to buggy game refraction.
Sorry - didn't mean to piss you off. I understood about what you said about how the glass jar mod is designed. But I meant not for just that mod but for every mod that uses this kind of transparency. It may be wrong way to do it, but many authors have found this to be the way to exploit it for the desired result. (Like the icicles mod - it's literally the most realistic looking icicles mod out there when I look out of my window rigth now and compare it to real icicles.)
Anyways - this thing is sorted out now with a decent solution. Thanks.
ENBSeries wrote: 04 Mar 2023, 18:49
Ok, but what if the alpha is black and white image, not just one color?
It means modder don't know what he or she is doing. Alpha is not used at all by the game.
For some reason it's used that way in most mods that change objects and textures.
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