TES Skyrim 0.279

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

wysiwyg wrote:Perhaps try using the injector version instead of the wrapper. Make sure all of the previous ENB files are deleted from the Skyrim directory first. I've always used the injector version and never have to stop using EVGA PrecisionX and whatnot.
That's not the issue though as I can still use EVGA PrecisionX. I can successfully use the wrapper version of any (well except for the newest of course which was the point of the post) ENB without issue. The newest binaries 0.277 and 0.279 are causing problems though, but none of the others are. EVGA PrecisionX works just fine with any version of ENB I've used, and I've tried disabling it for 0.277 and 0.279 and still have the same problems, so I have ruled out PrecisionX as one of the causes with the new binaries. I literally only run PrecisionX for a custom fan profile anyway.

I run the wrapper because some ENB presets run a SMAA injector in addition to the ENB, so I'd like to stay using the wrapper version if possible.

I have this issue with the most up to date drivers, and even rolling back to older drivers. I have had it with vanilla Skyrim, and fully modded Skyrim. I have had it with a GTX 980, and a GTX 980 Ti. Whatever changed between 0.272 and 0.277 is what is causing the issue for me, and I figured Boris could shed some light on it since he knows exactly what was changed under the hood.

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

I don't know whether it's a bug or what but jumping from v269 to v279 causes this with Parallax

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It looks like inverted somehow?


269:


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Another problem is the Effects txt I have seems to enable everything regardless of it being on or off via GUI changes and saves. Not much of a problem as I still can turn things off with the defines.

I have nothing else running graphically I can think of. ENB NLA preset v2.0, Windows 10 and latest AMD drivers are it
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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

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Crapware is the modern software which is hooks in to game process or d3d/opengl to read/write something. There are no standarts for such hooking and most of developers ignore very existance of d3d wrappers or forgot to save and restore data which the do modify, while i'm recording such things and restore, any bypassed states means corruption of graphics. List of such software is growing up unfortunately, these are all kind of monitoring overlays, some screen capturing tools, steam overlay also bad thing for wrappers, nvidia geforce experience, evga, some utils for input devices like razor or logitek (wtf do they need to touch graphics???), some antiviruses are awful about that. The question is not what changed between versions which do not work for you, but what software do you have which started to act rude. If you can't find, just use the old version of the mod. What i see on the screenshot is driver or crapware bug, because alpha test bugs on leaves or grass blades is most common mistake of lost device render state (lost because modified by something), otherwise it's missing or corrupted textures, which i hardly believe the fault of ENBoost memory manager even with recent changes of it. Post screenshot of task manager processes with "show processes for all users" box checked.

Anyone else could confirm similar issues like Eu4orick found?
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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

How much VRAM is Skyrim allowed to use when using ENBoost / ENB Series? It seems to hang around the 4GB mark here for me and tops out, but I'm not sure if it is my GPU/driver or if it's the game.

R9 390 8GB GPU here.

Edit: Is it Windows 10 being an ass?
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Alright, here is my process list screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/2yLvAfE.jpg

And also pasted in code for easy ctrl+f (and also svchost identification):

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Image Name                     PID Services                                    
========================= ======== ============================================
System Idle Process              0 N/A                                         
System                           4 N/A                                         
smss.exe                       416 N/A                                         
csrss.exe                      616 N/A                                         
wininit.exe                    732 N/A                                         
csrss.exe                      748 N/A                                         
services.exe                   804 N/A                                         
winlogon.exe                   840 N/A                                         
lsass.exe                      856 KeyIso, SamSs                               
lsm.exe                        868 N/A                                         
svchost.exe                    980 DcomLaunch, PlugPlay, Power                 
nvvsvc.exe                     176 nvsvc                                       
svchost.exe                    628 RpcEptMapper, RpcSs                         
svchost.exe                    564 AudioSrv, Dhcp, eventlog,                   
                                   HomeGroupProvider, lmhosts, wscsvc          
svchost.exe                   1028 AudioEndpointBuilder, CscService, hidserv,  
                                   HomeGroupListener, Netman, PcaSvc, TrkWks,  
                                   UxSms, Wlansvc                              
svchost.exe                   1056 EventSystem, fdPHost, FontCache, netprofm,  
                                   nsi, WdiServiceHost, WinHttpAutoProxySvc    
svchost.exe                   1096 AeLookupSvc, Appinfo, BITS, Browser,        
                                   EapHost, IKEEXT, iphlpsvc, LanmanServer,    
                                   MMCSS, ProfSvc, Schedule, SENS,             
                                   ShellHWDetection, Themes, Winmgmt, wuauserv 
svchost.exe                   1264 gpsvc                                       
svchost.exe                   1424 CryptSvc, Dnscache, LanmanWorkstation,      
                                   NlaSvc                                      
nvvsvc.exe                    1584 N/A                                         
spoolsv.exe                   1772 Spooler                                     
svchost.exe                   1804 BFE, DPS, MpsSvc                            
svchost.exe                   1964 DiagTrack                                   
ns.exe                        1404 NS                                          
StartManSvc.exe               2064 NU16StartManagerSvc                         
svchost.exe                   2272 stisvc                                      
WLIDSVC.EXE                   2312 wlidsvc                                     
SearchIndexer.exe             2804 WSearch                                     
svchost.exe                   3144 FDResPub, SSDPSRV, upnphost                 
WLIDSVCM.EXE                  3304 N/A                                         
svchost.exe                   3360 PolicyAgent                                 
dwm.exe                       3796 N/A                                         
explorer.exe                  3824 N/A                                         
taskhost.exe                  3936 N/A                                         
RtkNGUI64.exe                 4012 N/A                                         
LCore.exe                     4036 N/A                                         
iusb3mon.exe                  3652 N/A                                         
SSDMonitor.exe                3720 N/A                                         
ns.exe                        4372 N/A                                         
taskeng.exe                   4580 N/A                                         
PrecisionX_x64.exe            4764 N/A                                         
svchost.exe                   5660 p2pimsvc, p2psvc, PNRPsvc                   
PrecisionXServer.exe          5920 N/A                                         
PrecisionXServer_x64.exe      5992 N/A                                         
dllhost.exe                   6408 N/A                                         
Steam.exe                     6752 N/A                                         
IAStorIcon.exe                6772 N/A                                         
steamwebhelper.exe            6924 N/A                                         
SteamService.exe              6968 Steam Client Service                        
ModOrganizer.exe              6292 N/A                                         
steamwebhelper.exe            6396 N/A                                         
IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe          5680 IAStorDataMgrSvc                            
TrustedInstaller.exe          1692 TrustedInstaller                            
svchost.exe                   4120 SDRSVC                                      
taskmgr.exe                   3248 N/A                                         
audiodg.exe                   6260 N/A                                         
dllhost.exe                   3620 N/A                                         
dllhost.exe                   5496 N/A                                         
cmd.exe                       6380 N/A                                         
conhost.exe                   4068 N/A                                         
tasklist.exe                  5436 N/A                                         
WmiPrvSE.exe                  6492 N/A                                         
As I said I don't really see anything out of the ordinary. I run pretty much minimal processes so I'm not sure what could be the issue. The only thing I imagined it could be was PrecisionX, but as I said I had the same issue even when I disabled it anyway. I'm not using the OSD (monitoring/overlay) portion of PrecisionX either, I'm only using it for a custom fan curve so it shouldn't be interfering. I uninstalled GeForce Experience because it was running a streaming service in the background which was eating memory for no reason. I have also disabled the Steam overlay. The one piece of software I do have that you mentioned is a Logitech software for my wireless mouse... but I'm not sure that would really affect ENB? I mean I can try disabling it just for testing. Other than that, I'm at a loss.

As far as textures go, I'm not missing any, and they render fine on older versions of ENB so I don't think any are corrupt. I'm also not running out of ram because I have 6gb of vram and 32gb of system ram. ENB also still shows me having 4+ gb of free ram left in the profiler menu (I set the max usage to 10gb because I was told that was the max, but I don't use more than around 6gb anyway so it's fine). I don't know.

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

Nevermind, I figured out the cause of the issue. It was HDT memory patch. It would stand to reason multiple sources trying to modify your memory would conflict, I just didn't notice it before ENB 0.277 because I didn't have an issue with it before. I have had the HDT memory patch for a long time and completely forgot that .dll was in my skyrim folder (even predating my use of Mod Organizer). So needless to say I deleted it, and I am successfully running ENB 0.279.

Screen shots: http://i.imgur.com/f2hbIlP.jpg http://i.imgur.com/uvbjhY2.jpg

As a side note, I'm actually using less vram and ram than I was before too by getting rid of that patch. By less I mean almost half as much. Pretty significant loss that memory "patch" was giving me and I never realized it. I went from using about 6.5gb of ram to 2.5-3gb or so with the same setup. Not sure if that's because I got rid of the HDT memory patch, I'm using 0.279 now, or both. Either way it's a huge step up.

I've finally seemed to fix most of my macrostuttering and microstuttering as well, now I just have to figure out why I get the occasional game freeze.

Anyway, thanks for the reply Boris. My issue wasn't with any programs or drivers, it was the HDT memory patch I completely forgot I had.

Also in regards to Eu4orick's issue, I am not having that same problem. I am now running 0.279 and my parallax textures are working just fine.

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

Just to note:

If there is any further more detailed information I can provide let me know regarding my particular issue? I'll try my best to answer.
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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

Eu4orick, have you enabled the Parallax thingy in enblocal.ini and do you have a more or less up to date parallax texture mod?

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Re: TES Skyrim 0.279

There are no changes made between 0.269 and latest regarding parallax or shader recompiler, that's why i'm not able to track the issue. But if bug appear for other users, then can be memory corrupted or other basic mistakes in programming, different finding and fixing scenario. No new parameters added, removed transparency antialiasing do not affect any data for parallax. Don't remember, may be i deleted support of parallax helper mod, because it's not work properly (game scripting system limitations)? Remove it and use just enbhelper.dll
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